Joe Rogan Experience #1910 with Mark Laita/Soft White Underbelly can be watched on Spotify. Here's the link: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3myM0Fma9FudQASMe9VKrY?si=Z3jPQ82MQvS4yGOo8868cA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk